Posted by: Admetus | May 7, 2008

New Header Artwork

If you look up at the top, you’ll see we’ve finally switched out the default header artwork for something a little more fitting.  Unfortunately at the moment, you’ll also see that the artists signature is obscured, a formatting issue we’ll try to resolve soon.  Our profuse thanks for the new art to Daniel Jarratt, a good friend who was willing to oblige our request for the (somewhat ridiculous) favor.

Source image credits go to the Hellenic Navy for the trireme (found here) and the rest from James E Butterworth’s Sailing Vessels off a Coastline (see here).

Posted by: Admetus | May 7, 2008

My Apologies, Readers (if we have any yet?)

Life has recently been interfering with our blogging (and looks to continue to do so for the next month or so).  I regret that this has left this blog lie fallow for a month already.  I will attempt to be more diligent in my attention here, though upcoming personal events will interfere with the regularity of such attention.  Suffice it to say: I’m going to try harder to make sure that I’m producing more content for this blog, and I apologize for the recent lack of activity here.

Posted by: Admetus | March 29, 2008

Of Easter Sermons and the State

Recently Argus directed my attention to this “Easter Sermon” by Kim Fabricus, with the comment that it may be rather political, but perhaps that’s alright. As may be reasonably inferred by my posting this, I have several disagreements with the contents of the sermon (and one with the comment of Argus as well).

Mr. Fabricus begins his sermon by invoking the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. My immediate reaction was, “no good can come of this.” Unfortunately, I was pretty much right. Whenever someone invokes that day in a sermon, there will be one of two sermons to follow: the conservative righteous-anger-we-must-smite-them sermon discussing how our armies are now off fighting to liberate the middle east, or the liberal why-can’t-we-just-get-along sermon about how our armies need to pack it in and America needs to turn the other cheek. This sermon turned out to be the latter, though both are equally obnoxious and inflammatory in a religious setting (a separate issue).

The sermon centers around tactlessly (see below) comparing the aftermath of the Crucifixion with the aftermath of 9/11. He emphasizes the point that “the most astonishing thing of all about the resurrection of Jesus: there was no payback!” (emphasis his). There were no legions of avenging angels sent to cow the Romans and exact retribution for His ignominious death. He goes on to imply that forgiveness is the appropriate response to terrorism.

Now, this does sound somewhat reasonable from a Christian perspective, but there is one major flaw in his thinking that should be apparent to even the most casual of observers (particularly American ones): he has conflated the religious and the political. It is the solemn duty of a temporal, political body to protect its citizens. We can debate whether the methods are effective at doing so, but to argue that the government of the United States of America should turn the other cheek is preposterous. A government unwilling to take up arms in its own defense will be conquered and destroyed, and thus unable to spread its influence. Had Christ set Himself up as a political figure, the messiah-king the Jews all expected, he would have had to do precisely what Mr. Fabricus is decrying: punish the Romans, to ensure that his worldly kingdom would not be extinguished, thus driving the Gospel out of the world forever (see the modern state of Israel).

Beyond that, there is a general moral hazard problem associated with forgiveness rather than punishment from the perspective of the state. Essentially, it is the political equivalent of the old aphorism, “spare the rod and spoil the child.” By not punishing unacceptable behavior, we fail to send an effective message that such behavior is wrong. By tolerating bad behavior, we encourage its spread. That is why the criminal justice system is not based on forgiveness, but rather, on punishment. The forgiveness is a personal matter between the criminal and the victim – the state is not an intermediary in this. Thus it also is with war. The state must, for its own survival and the survival of its citizens, make war on external organizations who would kill its citizens. Those citizens may personally forgive those individuals who seek to kill them, but that does not change the duties of the state one bit. Any argument that seeks to argue that we as a nation shouldn’t be waging war against those who want us dead needs to address things at a level at least this fundamental. (Any arguments about whether we are, in fact, waging war on those people right now are tangential to this argument.)

Oh, and about that tactlessness mentioned above? Wooh, boy, is there some inflammatory rhetoric:

Think of 9/11 again. On the third day, as it were, America rises from the dead, from the ashes of Ground Zero. What is the immediate reaction of the nation, embodied in the melodramatic speeches, soon to become military policy, of George Bush? What else but payback? First the easy pickings of Afghanistan, then the full-scale invasion of Iraq; and now here we are, five years later, with George Bush unbowed and unrepentant, in defiance of reason and evidence still speaking the empty rhetoric of freedom and democracy, still claiming that he did the right thing, and, notwithstanding the current anarchy and slaughter, eyes wide shut in denial, still declaring that he’d do it again: bring the superior firepower of the US, its swift and righteous sword, to bear on the evil and cowardly terrorists.

We all know that inflammatory rhetoric like this, while personally satisfying, will never convince anyone who disagrees with you. Give it up.

This is getting a bit long, so I’ll leave my issues with political sermons in general for another, later, argument. Suffice it to say that I have them.

Posted by: Admetus | March 22, 2008

Why Debate? (Part II)

In addition to attempt to foster the development of a society in which the current debating institutions can be more effective (see part 1), I blog arguments because in contemporary society, far to often the mere act of disagreement, regardless of the manner or content of the disagreement, is often viewed as offensive. (Before you deny that’s true, how often have you bitten your tongue when discussing politics or religion, just to prevent someone from being offended by your views, which to you are obviously quite reasonable?) I want to try to dispel the notion that disagreement is inherently offensive, because without room for disagreement in our public and personal lives, society can do naught but stagnate. As you will no doubt come to know, Argus and I disagree on many, many things, and yet have managed to build a friendship not only in spite of, but in part because of, our disagreements.

Also, I blog these arguments because I just plain enjoy arguing. Have at thee!

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Posted by: Admetus | March 22, 2008

Against the Easter Bunny (Part II)

“[T]he Easter Bunny should be banned.” Really? Why would you want to make all those poor little children cry? Meanie. I say let them have their reproductively confused rodents. I vote we merely attempt to supplant it with the Easter Platypus without an outright ban (One critter, two natures! Christlike!).

I agree it’s incoherent to celebrate with a bunny, but that’s way too harsh.  Besides, do you really want to make the Easter Bunny a subversive symbol? Because that’d be hilarious…

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Posted by: Argus | March 22, 2008

Against the Easter Bunny

Some of our regularly scheduled arguments have been put on hold as both Admetus and myself have been celebrating the vernal equinox/the ides of March/Easter/etc. But clearly such important holidays and holy days are full of provocative and important issues.

I present one such issue to you now:

LOLManuscripts Easter Bunny

Easter Bunny Image from  the excellent LOL Manuscripts!

Regardless of one’s beliefs re: Christianity, it is utterly incoherent to celebrate Easter by means of a bunny. According to the Catholic Encyclopedia at NewAdvent.org, the Easter Rabbit is a pagan symbol of fertility which lays easter eggs (which were also originally pagan but have acquired a more acceptable meaning and are thus not so objectionable). Now I understand that Easter was a spring holiday in part taken over from the pagan traditions, but I think that making the move from new life in the resurrected Christ to a celebration of fertility (c.f. [reproducing] like rabbits!) is a questionable one. Thus the Easter Bunny should be banned. While I recognize that removing Easter Bunny merchandise now is poorly timed given America’s flagging economy, I think that the Christian demographic would agree with me that doing so is a small price to pay. The non-Christian demographic which wished to preserve Easter Bunnies &etc. could simply create a new spring holiday involving rabbits.

Posted by: Argus | March 18, 2008

Why debate?

One of the reasons for showcasing debate on the Internet is that there are few other places where debate can take place.  Alasdair MacIntyre, a Notre Dame professor and a philosopher not unfamiliar with debate, writes:

“There is no type of institutional arena in our society in which plain persons — not academic philosophers or academic political theorists — are able to engage together in systematic reasoned debate designed to arrive at a rationally well-founded mind[...]a common mind which might then be given political expression.  Indeed the dominant forms of organization in contemporay social life militate against the coming into existence of this type of institutional arena.  And so do the dominant modes of what passes for political discourse.  We do not have the kinds of reading public necessary to sustain practically effective social thought.  What we have instead in contemporary society are a set of small-scale academic publics within each of which rational discourse is carried on, but whose discourse is of such a kind as to have no practical effect on the conduct of social life” GoogleBooks link to quotation in context

“Some Enlightenment Projects Reconsidered” in Ethics and Politics:  Selected Essays.   Cambridge University Press, 2006, p. 185.

One of the reasons that we blog our arguments the way that we do is to encourage the education of such a reading public.  It’s perhaps important for contemporary society.

Posted by: Argus | March 10, 2008

Lent is the new Ramadan(?) (Part V)

We seem to be at an impasse. Without knowing how precisely the Dutch Catholics are “rebranding” Lent as Ramadan, we cannot adequately evaluate it.  And since there seems to be little follow-up to the story now–about a month later–we can’t really do that.

However, this debate has highlighted some interesting aspects of how language works.  We agree that simply saying ‘Lent is the Christian Ramadan’ is unhelpful and factually incorrect at best.  However, my proposed addendum (‘Lent is the Christian Ramadan and here’s how and here’s how it’s different’) isn’t helpful in a public setting, because people are going to hear ‘Lent is the Christian Ramadan’ and are likely to stop there.  Certainly it’s possible that some people might wonder why this is the case and continue on to the comparison/contrast I find compelling.  However, it’s more likely that they’ll stop at ‘Lent is the Christian Ramadan.’  Thus, they’ll pick up the negative aspects of the comparison that you’ve highlighted without learning from it like I want them to.  So I think that we can conclude that the comparison is a bad idea if it makes it to the local media and thus also the Internet.  It might be a helpful thing in-house, so to speak, but if it were an in-house notion among Dutch Catholics we wouldn’t be arguing about it now.
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Posted by: Admetus | March 9, 2008

Lent is the new Ramadan(?) (Part IV)

You say that “the differences between Lent and Ramadan could make such a comparison instructive, in the right context,” and go on to list a “lecture series” or “Bible study groups.”  I agree; in a forum where there is guaranteed to be actual discussion about the differences and similarities between Lent and Ramadan, such as you suggest, we do not run many of the risks I listed in my last post.  Unfortunately this does not seem to be what’s happening here – there is no lecture series, Bible study, or anything similar I can see.  All that was mentioned in the article was a “rebranding.”  It really does seem to be “just stopping there,” and thus I stand by my prior statements.

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Posted by: Argus | March 8, 2008

Lent is the new Ramadan(?) (Part III)

While I agree that it’s dangerous to simply start describing Lent as the Christian Ramadan, I think that precisely the differences between Lent and Ramadan could make such a comparison instructive, in the right context. Imagine a speaker series, perhaps somewhere on a college campus or in some sort of church/bible study group. Lecture 1 might be “What Christians can learn from Ramadan.” Lecture two might contrast Lent and Ramadan, reminding Christians of the penitential aspects of their religious tradition in general and the season of Lent in particular.

Even though it is not precisely correct to say that ‘Lent is the new Ramadan,’ I think that comparing and contrasting the two could be productive. The important thing is to advertise and make these claims in a way that doesn’t let people read “Lent is the new Ramadan” and just stop there, thus assuming that the Christians making such claims are conflating the two or what have you. To properly claim that Lent is the Christian Ramadan, one would have to say that it’s like Ramadan because it’s a season of particular religions intensity, but that it focuses on divine action rather than human responses to that action. So I’m still content with saying that Lent is the Christian Ramadan, as long as it doesn’t just stop there.

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